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Making and Testing of Devices Q1, Q2, and Q3

Materials

Potassium
Nitrate

Chemical formula:  KNO3

Also known as:
Saltpeter or Saltpetre
Medic-Saltpetre Champion-Bulldog
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Sugar
Products
used in these tests
Karo-Dark-Light              powdered-sugar-box       Domino-Cane-Sugar      

   

Marshmallow
Test

Video:  "Sugar is all Energy!"
Playtime:  11 seconds
 
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Mixture Tests

Mixture Test 1:  Granulated Dry KNO3/Sugar

Video 3-7-09C

Playtime:  25 seconds

Granulated dry propellant
Spectracide stump remover mixed with granulated sugar, just as they came from the container without grinding.

Burn is slow, incomplete.

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Mixture Test 2:  Powdered Dry KNO3/Sugar
Video 4-19-08A
Playtime:   20  seconds

Finely ground dry propellant
About 1 gram of dry KNO3/sugar burned on a brick to illustrate its burning characteristics.
It burns much more rapidly than in Test 4, with yellow/purple variegated flame and a lot of smoke.
This is the mix that is compressed in a PVC tube to make the Q3 replicas.
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Mixture Test 3:  KNO3 and Karo Syrup

Video 4-19-08C

Playtime: 126  seconds

KNO3/Karo Syrup wet mix

First mix of 60% KNO3 and 40% Karo Syrup would not burn, despite several seconds' application of torch flame.

Second mix of 70% KNO3 and 30% Karo Syrup burned via "dancing pearls" of molten KNO3 that appeared to feed off the mix below them.


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Mixture Test 4:  KNO3 and Karo Syrup in Tube

Video 3-11-09D

Playtime:  62 Seconds


Wet Mix in Tube Burns OK
Placing the KNO3/Karo Syrup mix in a short piece of tube constrained the "dancing pearl" to the surface of the mix, and obtained a lengthy burn.  

About 1/3 of the mix remained in the tube after the burn.
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Mixture Test 5:  Burn Rates of Caramelized Propellant

Video 4-18-08B
Playtime 143 seconds

Demonstrates the effects of overcooking on KNO3/Sugar propellant.  
Comparison of open-air burn rates for 5 strands of recrystallized propellant, each one inch in length.  Starting with very light propellant, ending with dark propellant
Strand 1, light ivory color, burned one inch in 9.9 seconds
Strand 2, dark ivory brown, burned in 12.4 seconds
Strand 3, "peanut butter" brown, burned in 16.5 seconds
Strand 4, darker, burning strand self-extinguished twice during burn. Total burn time 25 seconds
Strand 5, "caramel" brown, self-extinguished three times, total burn time 26 seconds
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Mixture Test 6:  Melted KNO3/Sugar, Light

Video 4-19-08B

Playtime:  22 seconds

Melted granulated propellant, cooked light brown
Melted-sugar propellant made with USP-grade KNO3 and cane sugar.  
"Peanut-butter" color, burns 10.4 seconds per linear inch at 1 atm.
This propellant was cooked darker, to the point that it would not burn continuously at 1 atm.  
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Mixture Test 7:  Melted KNO3/Sugar, Dark

Video 3-7-09A (excerpt)

Playtime:  55 seconds

Melted granulated propellant, cooked dark brown
Melted-sugar propellant made with USP-grade KNO3 and cane sugar.  
Cooked until color is good match for propellant shown in police photos
Burn rate is much slower, but continuous.
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Mixture Test 8:  Color of KNO3 and Dark Karo Syrup
60% KNO3, 40% Dark Karo Syrup

Six grams of stump remover KNO3 mixed with 4 grams Dark Karo Syrup yields a light-brown color.

This color is much lighter than seen in the police photographs of seized mixtures

Sample burned much as in Test 3, but when 70:30 mix was placed in a small paper tube (Mixture Test 4), more than half of it burned.

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Device Tests - Q1 and Q2
Propellant processed by melting or recrystallization

Making a Q1 Replica
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Device Test 1:  Q2
Video 4-18-08C
Playtime:  34  seconds

Recrystallized Propellant, Stochiometric mixture
Q2 Replica 1, 66.3grams of dark recrystallized propellant, similar in color and burn rate to strand 5 in Test 2
KNO3 is USP grade.
Burned vigorously for about 10 seconds, chuffed once, blew out clay plug and self-extinguished.
Propellant burned about 1/3 of it's length, the majority remained unburned in the tube  
I erroneously used SCH40 PVC pipe in this test, later realizing that the original devices were made with SCH1120 "thinwall" PVC tubing.
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Device Test 2:  Q1

Video 4-18-08D

Playtime:  28 seconds

Attempt to measure thrust

Q1 Replica 1, made with same mixture as in Test 3, and behaved about the same
Fired in static test stand to determine if there were significant thrust.  There was not.
As in Test 3, it burned vigorously for about 10 seconds then chuffed out.
Majority of propellant remained in tube, unburned.


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Device Test 3:  Q1
Video 4-27-08B  
Playtime:  122  seconds

Melted dark propellant, USP KNO3
Q1 Replica, 70% KNO3 (USP grade), 30% Cane sugar, melted, brown in color, burns very slowly.
Motor burned for a few seconds and went out.  
Nozzle was enlarged a bit but otherwise intact, so I inserted another fuse and fired it again.  
Second time it burned for a few more seconds and went out.  
Kitty litter nozzle plug had fallen away, majority of propellant remained in casing, unburned.



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Device Test 4:  Q1

Video 4-27-08C  
Playtime:  20 seconds

Light recrystallized propellant

Q1 Replica, Made with recrystallized propellant containing 60% KNO3, 40% sugars.  
This fast-burning propellant is expected to be as good as the best melted propellant that might have been used in the original device.  
Burned briefly, popped kitty litter plug, and went out.  Most of the propellant remained in casing, unburned.  


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Device Test 5:  Q1
Video 4-20-08A  
Playtime:  95 seconds

Melted, Gordon's Stump Remover

Q1 Replica made with melted propellant using 65% Gordon's Stump Remover as KNO3, and 35% cane sugar.  Melted in electric skillet, browned until color is a near-match for that seen in photos of propellant in original devices.  This propellant burns very slowly, in fact, does not support its own combustion at 1 atmosphere pressure.  Four attempts at ignition failed.  First two with standard Visco fuse, 0.5 inch penetration into propellant, third with strobe fuse, 1/2 inch penetration, fourth with strobe fuse, 1.5 inch penetration.  Propellant burned only while fuse was burning, extinguished immediately when fuse burned out.  

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Device Test 6:  Q1
Video 3/7/09A
Playtime:  187 seconds

Basic Melt, coarse KNO3
Q1 Replica made with melted propellant using 65% Spectracide Stump Remover as KNO3, and 35% cane sugar.  Melted in electric skillet, browned until color is a near-match for that seen in photos of propellant in original devices.  This propellant burns very slowly, in fact, does not support its own combustion at 1 atmosphere pressure.  

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Device Test 7: Q1
Video 3/7/09B
Playtime:  57 seconds

Melted, with finely ground KNO3
Q1 Replica made with melted propellant using 65% Spectracide Stump Remover as KNO3, and 35% cane sugar.  This time, the KNO3 is ground in an electric coffee mill to a fine powder before the propellant is processed.  Melted in electric skillet, browned until color is a near-match for that seen in photos of propellant in original devices.  

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Device Test 8: Q1
Video 3/8/09A
Playtime:  72 seconds

Recrystallized and cooked dark
Q1 Replica made with recrystallized propellant using 65% Spectracide Stump Remover as KNO3, 23% cane sugar, and 12% corn syrup.  Propellant was at first very light in color, but was intentionally overcooked to try to match the photos provided.  

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   Device Q3
Dry-Rammed propellant
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Device Test 9:  Q3


Video 4-18-08A
Playtime:   58  seconds

Rammed dry mix, 71:29, heavy tube
Q3 Replica 1.  
Dry-packed propellant, 71% KNO3 (USP), 29% confectioner's sugar.
Kitty litter plug at either end. Fuse hole 1/8th inch diameter.
Burned with vigor, shooting smoke but not much visible flame.  Burn time 35 seconds
Error:  Using SCH40 pipe in this test.  I discovered afterward that originals were made with thinwall PVC
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Device Test 10:  Q3
Video 4-19-08A
Playtime:  27 seconds

Rammed dry mix, lighter tube
Second replica of Q3 fired on a static test stand to determine if there were any appreciable thrust.  65% KNO3 (USP), 35% confectioner's sugar.
Burned for about 1 second then clay plug "nozzle" blew out.  
Remaining propellant burned up in about 14 seconds
There was a slight peak when nozzle failed, and a few other small peaks I can't explain.  Otherwise, no significant thrust was recorded.  
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Device Test 11:  Q3
Video 4-20-08B1  
Playtime: 27 seconds

Dry rammed mix, Ground Test.  
Propellant made with 65% USP-grade KNO3 and 35% confectioner's sugar, packed dry.  
Fired on sheet of roofing metal so that it would slide easily.  
Motor accelerated off sheet metal and lodged in grass about 20 feet away.  
Shows some potential to fly, so flight test attempted next, that will be test 4-20-08B2
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Device Test 12:  Q3

Video 4-20-08B2

Playtime:  60 seconds

Dry Mix, Flight Test

Previous ground test jumped around a bit, so it's time to see if this motor can fly.
Propellant with finely ground USP-grade KNO3 and confectioner's sugar.
Flew a few feet up, fell, and burned most of it's propellatn on the ground.  Note the scorch-mark around the stick.  Nozzle enlarged substantially, thought to be cause of low performance.  


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Device Test 13:  Q3

Video 4-26-08B  

Playtime:  81 seconds

Second flight test, ground kitty-litter clay nozzle
Q3 Replica, 60% KNO3 (USP), 40% Confectioner's sugar, rammed dry propellant.  Stabilized with stick.  
Popped nozzle, flew a few feet into the air, fell to ground and burned.
Clay had been ground in coffee mill before packing, assuming that finely-ground clay would make a better nozzle - that assumption could be wrong.
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Device Test 14:  Q3
Video 4-26-08C  
Playtime:  68 seconds

Third flight test
Q3 Replica, 60% KNO3, 40% Confectioner's sugar, rammed dry propellant
Stabilized with stick.  Popped nozzle, flew a few feet into the air, fell to ground, extinguished.  
About half the propellant remained in the casing.
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Device Test 15: Q3

Video 4-26-08A  
Playtime:  63 seconds

One more flight test
Q3 Replica, 70% KNO3 (USP), 30% Confectioner's sugar, rammed dry propellant.  
Stabilized with stick, this one flew about 100 feet up, landed about 300 feet away.
The kitty-litter plug held OK this time, remaining in the tube and serving as a nozzle.  This one is not eroded as badly as 4/20/08B2, reinforcing my notion that nozzle erosion is prime limiter of performance in these motors.
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   Reference Motor Test

Device Test 16:  Model Rocket Motor

Video 4-18-08E
Playtime:  17 seconds

Widely available, entry-level rocket motors
For comparison, a commercial model rocket motor was fired to illustrate how a proper motor should work.
This one is and Estes C6-5 motor, very commonly used in model rocket launches.
Such motors are available at retailers such as Wal-Mart, hobby shops, and through web order.
Quick ignition, 2-second burn, 5 second smoke/delay, then ejection charge fires, expelling the motor from the test stand.
Thrust curve is shown at the end of the video.

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James Yawn
4/28/08
rev. 3/13/09B